The two discussed the music industry, globalism, the Panama Canal, and President Donald Trump's return during the episode.
Rich, of the country music duo Big and Rich, touched on the today's music scene and said it was a "disservice" that modern artists were unaware of great artists that came before them.
"You and I are both historians of country music. We're both songwriters [and] dedicated our lives to becoming as great as we can ... the only way you do that is to get to understand the shoulders you're standing on," Rich said. "Where you came from, who did it prior to you, and you study those people."
Rich said their "curriculum is to go back in and look at the greatest of the greats and try to match 'em."
"Maybe even one day beat 'em on one level, maybe not. But that's the goal," he said.
The country star said there was an inconsistency in artists who genuinely cared about legacies laid before their time.
"I've met a few out on the road, they've opened for Big and Rich in the past few years, and I bring 'em up on the bus," Rich said. "I say, 'Sing me three songs that were hits before you were born. That's the game we're gonna play,' and they go 'Uhh,' and a lot of them can't do it."
"It's a disservice to them, really, that they don't know how great it was before them," he added.
Wallin agreed with Rich's sentiment, adding that he believed modern mentality was that "everything new" was the "new it thing."
"The idea of learning from someone and actually being like a sponge and getting knowledge from the people that came before you is a different thing," Wallin said, drawing similarities with the music industry and politics when discussing global issues as opposed to local issues. "I think this is what Trump does ... Let's talk about the person who can't pay their bills ... The physical things that people are going through. They can't pay for a tank of gas."
The conversation then turned to President Trump and natural disasters that have hit North Carolina and Californa.
"Right this minute, Trump is talking about the people in North Carolina, and he's on the ground telling the people in North Carolina, and Tennessee, and everybody that got smashed ... Trump says he's gonna do away with FEMA," Rich said. "He goes, 'As far as North Carolina is concerned, today I'm doing away with FEMA. I'm gonna turn this back over to the states. The states know their state better than the federal government ever will. FEMA's a disaster. All these people that came in to help from Tennessee, and other places to help North Carolinians were told to stand down, they were told to stop and got in the way, and all these people are still living in tents in the hills of North Carolina."
The country star praised Trump for vowing to end aid to foreign countries until North Carolina and California had been handled.
"That says a lot about him 'cause California didn't vote for Donald Trump," Rich said. "Californians, a lot of them don't like Trump at all, and their governor absolutely doesn't like him." "But Trump looks at them and says, 'Yeah, but they're Americans ... I'm gonna step in and help them. I don't care if they voted for me or not.'"
Wallin said he had family in Tennessee right on the North Carolina state line who had been without drinking water for quite a while after the disasterous hurricane struck the area.
"Now we know it's documented that people from FEMA literally said 'We're not going to help these people' because they had Trump signs in their yard," Wallin said.
Rich chimed in saying Trump wouldn't deny help to Californians that voted for Kamala Harris.
"He would say, 'If they're upset, find out what they're upset about and fix the problem. They're Americans,'" the country star said, noting many prominent California liberals were questioning Democratic governance in the state after the devastating wildfires.
"Pain is the ultimate alarm clock," Rich said. "Unfortunately, the human condition requires us to go through pain before we actually get the point."
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